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POSTED: December 18 10:57:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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russian night scope help id |
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http://img75.exs.cx/img75/1677/55_1_b1.jpg |
http://img75.exs.cx/img75/1677/55_1_b1.jpg
can any tell me who made this and model please...says made in belarus and its 4 x68 mag |
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REPLIED: December 18 01:50:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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it looks like.... |
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....a russian 1PN58
http://www.rbs.ru/vttv/99/firms/novoprib/e-1pn58.htm
I remember I saw one like this on ebay a few time ago
dead link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2163266973&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:US:6
the buyer sent a post here:
http://boards.guns.ru/ultimate/Forum21/HTML/000156.html
it seens to be a simple NVD besed on the rifle scope without reticle |
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REPLIED: December 18 01:52:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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no IR as it is Gen2 |
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no need of an IR illuminator like gen1 |
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REPLIED: December 18 02:16:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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night scope |
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this is all the info i have at the moment from the seller..
This is a very POWERFUL night vision scope that either attaches to a gun, as it has mounts, or can be used by hand. It is lightweight and has a webbing handle to hold it steady. Marked 4X68 it is waterproof with adjusters to the top and side. It is battery operated and shows up green. The lens has a cross hair. I’ve watched rabbits and other wildlife at night from great distance and it is very clear. Good condition. This item came from a British soldier that served in Bosnia some years ago and is an excellent piece of kit. Approx 16 inches length. Excellent condition and enormous fun!.
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REPLIED: December 18 02:18:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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this is what the ad said |
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This is a very POWERFUL night vision scope that either attaches to a gun, as it has mounts, or can be used by hand. It is lightweight and has a webbing handle to hold it steady. Marked 4X68 it is waterproof with adjusters to the top and side. It is battery operated and shows up green. The lens has a cross hair. I’ve watched rabbits and other wildlife at night from great distance and it is very clear. Good condition. This item came from a British soldier that served in Bosnia some years ago and is an excellent piece of kit. Approx 16 inches length. Excellent condition and enormous fun!.
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REPLIED: December 18 02:32:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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yes I guess it is |
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exactly what we are talking about
something based on a 1PN58
it is not a bad crappy russian scope but one of the interesting NVD made in Russia
It is originaly a rifle scope, gen2, for the SVD Dragunov sniper rifle
you might find a lot of technical info searching on the web "1PN58" |
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REPLIED: December 18 02:34:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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cheers david |
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thank you..am searching the net at mo but not seen one like it..what would the performance be like please |
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REPLIED: December 18 02:52:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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I was mistaken, it is gen1, three stage |
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tube, not gen2 but it is almost similar in specification
I found this on the net:
Generation of image intensifier ................1
Magnification,................................... x 3,5
Field of viev,.................................... deg 5
Identification range,
.......standart night conditions, m Tank - 700
.......Solider - ------------------------------400
Eye relief, mm 50
Power supply 6,25 V
storage
battary*
Operating time without
recherage or replacing, h ...........................80
Weight, kg ................................................2
Overall dimensions, mm................295x98x90
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REPLIED: December 18 03:00:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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scope info |
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can you send me the link please david....and thank you for all your help to a complete beginner |
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REPLIED: December 18 03:16:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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links |
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http://www.kompred2003.narod.ru/1pn58.html
http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/wwwboard/board5/messages/5081.html |
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REPLIED: December 18 12:07:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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just guessing... |
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... but this looks like the scope is using a Gen2 25 mm tube. |
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REPLIED: December 18 12:46:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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russian scope |
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do you know the make mate...not got the scope yet but was told its powerful but why is there no ir intensifiers,,,,was told it was used by a british soldier in bosnia |
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REPLIED: December 20 02:05:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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PN58 ?? |
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I have a PN58 and it does not look like the picture. The reticle is projected from the front where the objective lens attaches to tube housing. The tube housing is too short for the # stage gen I tube stack. This looks like possibly a newer Russian Gen I or Gen II tube with a fixed reticle on the front of the tube and you are adjusting the angle of the tube for widage and elevation. The mount is not for the draganov like the PN58 mounts either. |
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REPLIED: December 23 05:35:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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scope recognition |
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Hi
Looks to me like a NZP piece or at least made from their parts .. tubes probably a gen2 same as in a Baigish 6 or IPN51 rifle scope, originally ran on 6v they can handle 9v but you run the chance of blowing the rectifier .. so id use a 4xAA nicad pack
http://www.npz.sol.ru/katalog.php3?lng=eng&id=observer
http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/wwwboard/board5/
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REPLIED: December 24 07:05:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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Russian Scope |
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The unit is PON 4x68, made originally in Belarus. It is definitely not the 1PN58. Unfortunately, I‘ve never seen the actual unit, and my Russian specs are not detailed enough. So I can‘t comment what tube was installed inside.
The factory has also made a very nice PON 3x78 units, which had a larger side Gen 1 tubes.
Yours, Arie |
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REPLIED: December 25 02:25:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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sight |
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are you certain its a pon as i cannot find any info...will it be gen 1 or 2 and what is it like as a night vision scope.....merry xmas |
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REPLIED: December 29 01:05:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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PON 4x68 NV weapon sight |
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This sight is long out of production. Was made by Belomo (www.belomo.by) in Byelorussia. Could not find a detailed spec sheet. Did find an old price list, which shows the unit to have a similar price to the PON 3x78, which was a decent quality Gen 1 tube.
So my assumption it used the same tube: Single stage, Gen 1 tube.
Yours,
Arie |
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REPLIED: December 30 08:00:00, 2004 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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pon |
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cheers arie,,,,,,not got the scope yet but was told its very clear and powerful,,,tried to find pics of it but to no avail,,,,,just seems not to exists,,,thank you for your help |
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REPLIED: January 07 09:23:00, 2005 ( 00: AM PST ) |
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pon......... |
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received scope and lens is very clear with no dark edges etc,,,,when i turn it off there is no delay in the image...ie it shuts off straight away so it must be gen 2.....do not think its a pon..sent it away to be serviced and hopefully told what it is |
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